'When I Watched You In The Documentary, I Saw A Lot Of Lie Behavior,' Dr. Phil Tells Guest

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Apr 23, 2019


'When I Watched You In The Documentary, I Saw A Lot Of Lie Behavior,' Dr. Phil Tells Guest
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  • Did the cameras affect you?
  • During this documentary?
  • No, no, no.
  • In the beginning of course of it.
  • It's not quite like a reality show
  • but they're ubiquitous, they're constantly.
  • And then you trust the people so therefore
  • you just, you know there's a camera.
  • But it's not anything you're playing to.
  • The reason I ask is because
  • when I watched you in the documentary,
  • I saw a lot of lie behavior.
  • A lot of behavior that I see when people are lying.
  • And I often saw it when I knew you weren't lying.
  • Because there were things that were not controverted.
  • And I'm watching you talk about this,
  • that's why I said, did the cameras affect you.
  • Because you were answering questions that weren't asked.
  • You would focus on irrelevant detail, ad nauseam
  • to deflect from the issues at hand.
  • I never saw you empathetically emoting
  • about your wife and her being dead.
  • You were joking with the lawyers almost every time
  • you got together with them.
  • I'm thinking this is so inappropriate
  • and I'm thinking this is got to be alienating
  • the court of public opinion.
  • Because I think people don't realize how far removed
  • from the loss and how much of the grief process
  • has taken place
  • and that's why I ask you if the cameras affected you.
  • No, but one of the things I'm sure you
  • or anybody would be aware of.
  • They were there for well over a year and a half.
  • Hundreds, maybe 500 hours of film
  • and they cut that down to not even 12 hours, 11 hours.
  • So what you're seeing is what is being presented
  • by the filmmaker.
  • Is this in the edit, is it that the cameras affected you
  • because your kids describe you as very much caring
  • for Kathleen.
  • Being very solicitous of her and deferential of her
  • and really being a devoted husband.
  • Which I thought balanced out what at times seemed
  • like callous behavior.
  • The documentary made it seem at times
  • like it was all about you and all about
  • whatever you were thinking, feeling
  • or whatever at the expense of your wife and your loss.
  • They certainly didn't include a lot about that
  • in the documentary.
  • Would you agree with that?
  • No, I've never seen the first nine episodes.
  • That was released when I was in prison.
  • You never watched that?
  • No, and then when I got out of prison,
  • I didn't wanna watch it.
  • It was like when my kids would come home
  • from the courtroom at night, say,
  • and they run in to watch Court TV
  • and I'd say, you were just there.
  • And they said, "Dad, it's a different show on TV
  • than what that was on in court."
  • And I didn't wanna see that.
  • Did I wanna see me being convicted?
  • Did I wanna see my children crying and go to?
  • No, I didn't wanna see any of that.
  • So I've never seen it, but I do know the editor real well
  • and I know she would not have in any way
  • tried to make me look terrible.
  • You say you knew the editor really well.
  • In fact, you dated the editor.
  • Well, uh, kind of hard to date anybody in prison.
  • But she came to see me many, many, many, many times
  • in prison and then we lived together when I got out
  • of prison for a while, yes.
  • Let me ask you this, you agreed to this documentary.
  • I've seen it, I watched it, start to finish
  • all 13 episodes.
  • Do you regret doing the documentary?
  • I don't know if I would be out today
  • unless it were for that documentary.
  • Because what they captured was the entire trial.
  • And they captured the main guy who was the prosecution
  • witness against me,
  • and he lied, he perjured himself.
  • And the experiment was junk.
  • Well in the closing argument the prosecutor
  • really leaned on Deavers very hard.
  • Oh absolutely.
  • Because he himself said a lot of this case
  • turned on Deaver's testimony
  • and then his testimony was called into question
  • because he lied not only in this case
  • but in many other and so it was not a big leap then
  • to say that the trial was biased and unfair.

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