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Dark Secrets of the Music Industry - Steven Tyler | JRE #1116

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  • Oh what
  • An old-fashioned fucking man, who does it?
  • Today he got Rihanna how much you think she makes a night?
  • And this and the dancers?
  • compared to well
  • This is a big difference Rihanna the dancers and the dancers and you
  • Mary what would the band it's all we all get paid the same, right?
  • when I took Idol ka-ching
  • Start making some paper get that paper. Fuck. Yeah, so what you've already made fun of me and believe me
  • Did you do it just for the money? No, but but
  • No, I you know what? I did. Why because I thought nobody knew who I was everybody knows this guy
  • Singing nobody knew he was this guy. Oh, I
  • Wanted you as a human my mom's passed away. And she said she said, you know you they need to see that side of you
  • You as a person
  • well
  • you discussed that American Idol was the best way to show that I
  • thought it was the first thing was what else was I had no managers back then that had the good sense to
  • Offer me anything. I
  • Got the offer from Marty Fredrickson. I got how long ago was this how long this one two thousand?
  • two thousand
  • Ten and eleven eleven or twelve I get to sit next to JLo and Randy Jackson and motherfucker
  • mmm, a beautiful guy
  • and J. Lo, whew she's beautiful
  • You know, what us men need I think what everyone needs it's a word called incentive, right? Is it her ass?
  • It was her ass look at all the time, but she said you're harassing me and I'd say who's asked her ass. Yeah
  • the funniest fucking thing is we would do all three of us, and I think that's missing now, but
  • all three of us
  • You know to do American Idol, you got to go to Des Moines, Iowa
  • And in a gym and you're all set up with a whole crew and you know, three people with these with microphones
  • you know 12-foot mics hanging down over your head like this and
  • 12 cameras and high def up here up wazoo and
  • But in 50 40 people a day would come through all these fifty sixteen year old
  • 70 year old little trollop swith, you know red lipstick on and push-up bras and going to
  • Get out of here, you know after that after the 30th 40th one you're sitting there doing this right, you know
  • so he just got her you got to do you need that incentive from each other and sometimes it will get so it was just
  • Shit burned out after the 40th person 50th person, but that's what people like though. There's something about American Idol
  • We like really talented people. But we also like people who are delusional. Yeah, and we trust me it took me about
  • Two weeks to get into it because I told myself I am never gonna tell some young girl
  • I can't sing but she can't saying get the fuck out of here right like that other day
  • You know what? I don't I'm a guy. Yeah, so I mean I don't like your music
  • Besides which it's country and I don't like country. I heard him say yeah
  • That seems not that's great. But that's also foolish. He's a weird case isn't name because he's not a singer. Well, you know what?
  • He's whatever he is. I said I'm saying her. How can I say that to a girl? It's gonna be there
  • Maybe some days breastfeeding or baby wants to sing
  • Maybe she wants to her baby's sick
  • and she's sitting at the on a bit on the bed and wants to sing but JLo told her she can't
  • Write I didn't have it in me. I brother though you shouldn't have it in you
  • I mean that's his schtick. Right his dick is to be a mean guy. Yeah, and people like that
  • they like that mean guy they would say to me you kind of
  • Come on, man. Take it up and not say that that the producer
  • To uh, they got me a couple times ago did they? Oh, yeah, they got you to turn it up. Mm-hmm
  • And then you feel bad about it
  • Disingenuous. Well, you know I mean like
  • There would be there would be moments where I mean we were Bert we're like I said why you are some, Texas
  • Look over that
  • The boom started going like this, right and it started getting it and they would say number one
  • Because it was in the shot, you know
  • You know and then so I would whip out my Limerick
  • He knows I go time for a limerick and stop everybody everyone. We stop I say something like
  • You know I once met a whore from Dallas
  • She's a dynamite stick for a phallus
  • They found a vagina in North Carolina and her asshole in Buckingham Palace and the fucking you see the boom go like this
  • The place where it was just enough to bring it up and we finished to mourn we'd leave
  • But it was fun like that and it was a good payday. So when you're asking me to have a house in Maui
  • Yeah, and I was made fun of for doing that although made fun of you for doing that
  • Uh, Joe Perry didn't think it was a smart thing. He said that's one step under ninja turtles
  • Joe keep in mind when I'm alone by myself, I went
  • Is he right? When do I thought to myself?
  • Would Bob Dylan do this?
  • Yeah, I had those thoughts right?
  • Kind of fucked me up for a minute, but then I went
  • So Dylan doesn't have a house on now. It doesn't know I didn't have one in but I wanted one
  • How much money that guy's got I'm sure
  • It's probably the house in them
  • So I took Idol and I you know
  • I never I am so you bought a house on Maui with the money from Idol
  • This is what we started you have kids right youngest is what?
  • She just turned eight eight. Okay, I have I have
  • My two last kids Chelsea and Taj
  • We lived in Marshfield Massachusetts and when I could I would take them to either Disneyland or world
  • Or Maui go to the four seasons and discover if all right with you kids
  • Yeah
  • But every morning I'd wake up and it would run to the right and go all the way down to LA Peru's
  • And I run back like five miles down and fire was back. I
  • Always saw this house. I thought is that where I
  • Didn't know who lived there, but I thought somebody
  • What's the lead singer in The Grateful daddy? Jerry Garcia? So I had rumor was he lived there?
  • I kept looking at it and I just used this beautiful house
  • But it was ridiculous amount of millions, you know, I don't have that
  • You know
  • You don't have that when you're in a band you share all the money
  • Plus management publishing and then that contributes a song when you're stoned. I mean, come on, right?
  • So you're into
  • MMA
  • What a segue right beautiful
  • So I'm looking at real fucking my notes
  • Help me Charlotte. I
  • Want to talk to you about aliens? Oh, really? Yeah, let's go with that hurt you where the fuck is a
  • Lot of notes in front of you man, yeah the most I never even finished that week that's okay
  • Okay, that's we could do whatever you want man. No, no, we're good, man
  • This this radio is really important she's getting so
  • When did you compile these this morning?
  • They just decided that you yeah, I finished a vocal last night 11 up at noodle Bettencourt's house
  • Got to bed at like that couldn't sleep until 4:00. I'm going
  • With fuck what the fuck come in?
  • You're sweet, man. You're sweet, too. It's I
  • mean one for Matt
  • To talk truth. Not only that when people watch your show
  • They know who's too full of shit and who's not I'm for sure after a while. Yeah
  • Yeah. Yeah, what is he telling the truth? They know that too. Yeah
  • Shitload of notches
  • well
  • This is what you were saying about
  • American Idol like then before they knew you was just the guy behind the microphone when you sang songs that touch people and move people
  • For you just put it right over there. Oh
  • She wants a stack
  • Okay
  • um
  • but even that like this having a conversation like this, yeah, it's uh,
  • This is not enough of these out there. Well, there is now, you know now there's more of it
  • Yeah
  • But for the longest time you would never be able to have this kind of conversation because of the same people that would tell you
  • To turn it up a notch on American Idol did be producers around and be people trying to fuck with things
  • adding fixation
  • And this is my the studio notes we have notes is what we want you to do Steven, you know
  • We want you to talk about this and stop doing that thing where you keep singing people don't want to hear that anymore
  • what we want you to do is this and for you to speak your mind like you do your truth and
  • have someone across from you to speak your truth in their words in any language they want and not be edited or audited is
  • Unreal isn't that weird though, that that's unusual. Just think about it 40 years ago. You couldn't you couldn't say ass on the radio. I
  • Don't know if you can now I think you can now but I hear a shit hole. I'm on CNN
  • I want you can say that you know, Don Lemon Donald lemon. Yeah. Yeah one of my favorite guys
  • Like three weeks
  • Quoting problems and shithole countries, right? I was great at what? Yeah
  • Well, it is a new freedom in terms of that. But I think it's because the internet people get used to swears
  • They're gonna use two people. Just speaking
  • Unedited they're getting used to uncensored video. They're getting used to things. Well, it's just words
  • There's no Sun sensor behavior
  • Right is beyond he's way past the word fuck sure the words are just representative of thoughts and intent, right?
  • They're just noises. Mm-hmm
  • It's like the best way to describe
  • what's going on in your head is use all the words you use them all use the ones that are really coming out of your
  • Head don't hold them back and give me some watered-down version of what your real thoughts are
  • So I have to decipher it and put it through a filter and try to figure out what did Stephen mean by that?
  • That's so I got so angry at the way things were going about that. I want to say
  • Six years ago that I quit management. I got my lawyer Dean will uphold you clear managed to manage me
  • well, I collect the management that was managing the band right and
  • They're also going now god bless
  • One of them passed away rest his soul. He's a good man and the
  • other one
  • Didn't have a lot of good things to tell the man wrong direction all the time. And now my band is with my management
  • We're together a fucking game
  • So six years ago, I would talk to people I go
  • You know what? Fuck you I'm going on Rogan next week and I'm gonna fucking say your name
  • I mean, I just built a house up in Laurel Canyon. He's fucking guys. I come home in the I had a water wall and
  • You know, it's Kylie and people would come and go and go don't tell fucking Tyler
  • I wanted to lean back
  • So the water wall wouldn't rolls down rolls down and wouldn't spray on the bridge that goes across right not a chance
  • So after a year I get there and they go you know what? I heard that I heard him say fuck Tyler
  • You know, I'm just you know, I'm just saying so that's the kind of stuff. I went. I'm on Rogan your fucking toast pal
  • That manager story is a story that you hear. I just heard it from a friend of mine
  • She was telling me about her managers giving a shit advice and she has dropped them
  • Why are there so many people in management that give shit advice like well because because out of ten out of ten of them
  • - two of them know the answers and they may be they may be right
  • Yeah, the rest of them know how to play the game if you read the book. It's easy. Yeah management
  • You just gotta tell them what they want to hear ya
  • sweet-talk them well
  • It's a hard thing to be a managers. It's
  • To manage a man. It's even harder. The hardest thing is to know direction to look at people's feelings, right?
  • Know what they're about why they're about what?
  • What what guy in the band should do this interview what interviews to do?
  • Which ones to do which ones not to do which ones not to do?
  • Well, don't do anyone where they're gonna stop it in four minutes. You know those Tonight Show ones
  • Sometimes you have to that's all they give you gotta talk
  • It just seems so fucking forced and fake this weird your book this stands for me. I wrote a book man
  • I was so fucking pissed
  • I wrote does the noise in my head bother you write
  • To people I would say that I go what the fuck is wrong with you are you talking about?
  • What do you mean? Did I write lyrics what did you do last night the guys would give me shit for not
  • Writing lyrics are finishing a song. They're upset that you're writing a book
  • No, no, no no back when you're writing a song and being round, right? Yeah
  • we're in a studio we
  • Put the song don't you lay the track down?
  • And then Stephens gotta go and write the lyrics, right?
  • well if I don't
  • Then XA they go what the fuck man and I say well, I'm trying to get my wife pregnant
  • Okay, I have life. I get it. What were you doing that say?
  • You know, but those are kind of that's kind of shit that happens
  • you get a lot of pressure on you and then because they did that I
  • Went and walked this way the lyrics had him in my bag finished the whole record
  • Got in. The fucking cab went to 351 was
  • 3:21 was 40 the record play in New York right got out of the cab went upstairs went I got it and
  • I fucking went white. I left the lyrics in the cab a whole album
  • and
  • My producer goes we're doing walk this way tonight
  • So went upstairs took a pencil listen to the track
  • Like I did the night before that wrote the lyrics and wrote them on the wall. And and that's what happened
  • But whoa, but you know
  • No one in the band thought a little foxes got those lyrics in that cab somebody
  • But the words buddy thinks you fucked off the worst part yet. Oh the band went. Yeah, right
  • You left the lyrics in the cabin. You know what?
  • Maybe when you're stoned on coconut when you're still no Coke, nothing's funny. It's really a suck-ass drug. Mmm
  • That's why I avoided it good for you. Thank you
  • Speed could get you. Well, you know what?
  • I'm a little bit stick to me victim with a yeah, but she does a little speed but but well caught this coffee right now
  • I can feel it
  • Downers for me and how I look at you you're shaking I had stem cell shots put my shoulder today
  • Come on, that's what it is. Did you really take him out of here? No, there's some new process they do
  • I'm in serious pain right now. Oh man. That's why I'm shaking like watch I could barely practice your song
  • I thought fuck is coffee. I'm doing it. So no, it's not look
  • You just caught me five hours ago
  • Like perfect something like something smooth
  • I'll be okay in a day. Yeah, what do I take?
  • Yeah, yeah gabapentin
  • Gabapentin gabapentin. It's a great job. It's not you don't get high from it, but it kills pain. This is to
  • Alleviate some shoulder tears. I have some tears
  • ease
  • Workout. Yeah, you can see yeah, so she's a great. So by the way, let's go quickly back to your bar. Yeah
  • There's a noise in my head bother you I wrote this and I wrote you a little
  • Thank-you verse we reproduce a man breather. Just remember the less hair. I got the more head you get okay
  • Mourn the less hair you got the more head you get that makes sense. You think love Steven Tyler?
  • Steve yes what I say. You said Steve? I think I said Steven Tyler. Let's go back David
  • I'm pretty sure I've never said Steve Tyler ever so I don't care but
  • Thank you, man, I really appreciate that if you put me down in the worst way I still love you
  • I didn't do that, but you're saying because because of the show and because of the trails you've left in life. I love you
  • I love you, too. I'm just telling you I've been a fan of yours since I was a kid. You're fucking monumental. I love you
  • I just fucking love your truth. So you're going to tell me about this fucking shoulder shit. Why are you so big?
  • It's move I switch it up mostly right? Yeah. Yeah for that no
  • You do yeah
  • Jujitsu, mostly but my shoulders are they've got some issues from some years of abuse and tears
  • and some minor arthritis and this one's been
  • apparently I had some sort of a
  • Separation on this one sometime in the past and I didn't know yeah
  • There's a lot of Tears. So I've had some great success with stem cells. Mmm
  • Musical mosaic. Um, oh, how do you say it Masai Kamal?
  • Whatever anyway stem cells. Yeah. I said I had it sucked out of my hip bone hip bone
  • Yeah, and they put it my knee. I had a knee replacement
  • Oh you had a replace whole thing?
  • You walk very well, though
  • Well it what's wrong with your name. It had a 99 degree valgus. It was like this
  • Ooh from because you had an ACL reconstruction, right? I had both of those done. Don't try don't believe the doctors
  • Don't nine years nine years. That's it for someone like you nine years. No. No, I've won that in my left knee. That's
  • 24 years old and it's so work. Awesome Wow
  • Everybody it's it's all about meniscus. It's about the amount of cushioning and whether or not they do a good job replacing the ligament
  • But mhm, I had very good doctors on my left and right knee shout-out to dr. Gettleman Wow good for you, man
  • Yeah, you know I've mine it didn't work. So started going inwards. Did you get it? Don't forget what?
  • 98. Mm. Yeah, mine was 94. I have a buddy on 93 actually
  • I have a buddy of mine who had one done though
  • And his knees really fucked up to the point where he is about to get a replacement and he actually got a hip replacement
  • On one of his hips because of the damage in his knee. Yeah, because if the knees going in then this is pushing that way
  • Yeah, and I didn't know any of this shit
  • I just I knew I couldn't take vicodin and percocet or any that's how long ago to get your knee replaced
  • Six years ago mmm
  • Yeah, yes five six. Yeah
  • Now I got to get the right one done. So now I'm going to Europe with my loved it loving merry band
  • I got a country album. So you need to get your right one done. Yeah, cuz what's going on with it? Okay
  • The left knee never hurt Brian but never never pinching. No nerves no where? No, how mmm right knee
  • It's fine except that's the right side if it pinches on the nerve it goes out like that, right?
  • I can't be doing that on stage Roxy. No Rolling Stones gonna be going he's fuckin stoned again
  • Look at do you think they would say that? I don't know. We're only stones a bunch of different people though
  • You can't really attribute it. Yeah. No, I'm not worried about that
  • I'm just worried about it doesn't do you sure that that's the only way to do it though if you talked to other doctors
  • Because what they're doing now with rajendra generative
  • Regenerative what can I say that regenerative? Why did that one stumble?
  • With regenerative men, they're able to replace meniscus and cartilage and regrow shit
  • You might want to hang on. Mm-hmm. There's they're able to do some shit now where they can they can fix things
  • They've never been able to fix before and every year gets better and I'm pretty close to the cutting edge of this stuff
  • Yeah, I've had a bunch of doctors on my podcast talk to me about it particularly. Dr
  • Neil Riordan who
  • Does a lot of work down in Panama that they can't do in the United States and he did
  • Mel Gibson and Mel Gibson's dad
  • It was 92 at the time and on death's door in a wheelchair now, he's a hundred and he's walking around
  • Yeah, I know about those people down there and I have people up and go go to Panama
  • But Penenberg is one name. That did my knee. My knee is so fun
  • You wouldn't believe it. If you saw so it's fine. It moves good. The left knee is good
  • But the right so pinches right ahead check just goes out so I can't go tour with Aerosmith
  • Jumping around like a like I do
  • You know and there's other I'm just saying this. I don't know how your knee is. I don't know what's going on with it
  • But there's other options now and there's
  • It's one of those things where according to the doctors that I've spoken to the longer
  • You can hold out the more likely you are to never need surgery then there especially when it comes to
  • replacements and they're able to do a lot with hip replacements now with
  • Regina keen and
  • Sometimes yeah the longer you can wait
  • because what they're able to do now is different than what's gonna be able to do in five years and in ten years and the
  • Longer you can wait the more likely it is they can regenerate tissue
  • Yeah, they're doing all kinds of crazy shit now with stem cells. Well now that they're in a lot. They're allowing this
  • There's a guy alive
  • That is into telomeres telomeres. Yeah, that's your longevity Cheney. Sure and he said
  • That people that are like phone the Lord Horrocks people that you know conduct pansies silly guys and shit, silly
  • musicians right Oh silly fucks silly
  • Silly comedians right people that are able to let let a childish side of them out
  • Those little taller one tails stay longer. Mmm old people they grow shorter and he's close to finding that out
  • So I love I love today. I love what's going on. I'm gonna look into this. Yeah, please do we'll talk afterwards
  • I'll give you some names new years and shit to to look up
  • but so so
  • MMA, you know, I'm looking at it and one of the girls that works for me
  • Said well, that's the same thing as what you're into right now MMA for me. I'm at mm-hmm only use it something no
  • No, it's something I got into in the last
  • Year with my lawyer Dean olap old and it's called
  • I'm sick and fucking tired of getting beat and ripped off for the songs. I wrote in the 70s and where's the money?
  • Where's the money so I got a joke, right?
  • It's not even a joke, and now that there's a format that's digital
  • It's even less of a joke. You want to fucking go break into these buildings and take a gun and shoot people
  • because
  • They're a pain. You mean things like Spotify and they're not right there. They're taking
  • the money for plays of your song
  • They're giving you whatever first of all publishers. You know what it's all about
  • 100 years ago
  • 50 years ago 20 years ago publishers take for money. We make on Toys in the Attic millions, right?
  • They keep that money for a year
  • They put it in the bank
  • they keep the
  • Interest right then they pay after they keep the interest, of course
  • So that's one of those members before is it the Sony dirty things like to tell you. How about us?
  • how about finding out managers by the first three rows of your shows and
  • Get the money from the fucking promoter
  • In their pocket brought to them in a paper bag. You want to fucking go there that what it does. Is that what happens?
  • That's the kind of shit that no. It's cuz shit that happens in the business
  • So they buy the first three rows and see how simple that is
  • They how simple they go up to the guy
  • This is the guy's assuming that the show right if you have a 90/10 deal fucking great
  • The manager goes and goes to the first three rows
  • See you later or you don't get Aerosmith Wow
  • Or you don't get Bob Dylan or you don't get you and they're just depending upon those people did not tell you
  • Yeah, I mean who's gonna tell you the only fight cuz here's what happens
  • You only find that shit out afterwards
  • If you're going out with a girl that says I'm the one that brought the money back to him. Oh
  • Is that how you found out I said how I found out somebody found out that way that's the story I heard
  • let's keep it like that and it's a story this woman's willing to talk about Oh,

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