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6 ‘Catfish’ Victims Who Straight Up Lied To Nev | MTV Ranked

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  • - Blah, blah, blah.
  • All right, let's just be honest.
  • Can someone just (bleep) be honest?
  • 'Cause this is stupid.
  • I just want someone to (bleep) tell me the truth.
  • This is all bull(bleep).
  • - [Max] Why don't you show us?
  • - The two pictures that I have of her are,
  • this is one.
  • - Okay, here we go.
  • Very pretty.
  • - [Max] Hello, Bre.
  • - [Nev] Oh, wow.
  • So you saw those pictures and you thought...
  • - Like, oh, she's pretty, she's--
  • - Oh. - Yeah.
  • (laughter)
  • - And that's all you've seen of her in the last four years?
  • - [Whitney] Yeah.
  • - It's odd that someone who is an exhibitionist
  • by profession, that you only have two pictures.
  • Don't you think there's something a little
  • odd? - Yeah, it is a
  • little odd and a little off.
  • - You ever feel like she's not telling you something?
  • - I wanna say yes but then it's like no, because
  • I don't like being lied to.
  • I don't ask for nothing else, just don't lie to me.
  • I hope that I'm getting what I give.
  • Because I'm being genuine with you, I expect
  • for you to be genuine with me 100%.
  • So hopefully that's the case that's going on.
  • If not,
  • (exhales)
  • four years of trust and not getting it back,
  • that would be really hurtful to me because
  • I don't trust too many people.
  • - Wait a second.
  • Here's a message between Whitney and Lucious B (bleep).
  • - They've talked.
  • - So Lucious said,
  • "Hey boo, how is everything going?
  • "Where are you now?"
  • - What year is this now?
  • - [Nev] It's 2011.
  • September-- - how far does it go?
  • - [Nev] It goes--
  • whoa.
  • Oh my God, wow, they talked a lot.
  • - I mean, this is a full relationship.
  • Do they know each other?
  • Look, 2014.
  • They were talking in December.
  • January 19th.
  • That was a week ago.
  • Do you think Whitney is messing with us?
  • Is that what's happening right now?
  • - Hey, love, get on Ooovoo.
  • Love?
  • - Wait, they get on Oovoo?
  • I thought she couldn't get on Oovoo?
  • - That doesn't make any sense.
  • - It looks like they've been video chatting since 2011.
  • - Do you think Whitney just--
  • Whitney and Brenelle talk extensively.
  • They're having an almost daily exchange
  • for the past four years.
  • - I'm so confused.
  • Or I'm not.
  • - She's lying to us.
  • She's gotta be lying to us.
  • She's gotta know that Lucious is Brenelle (bleep).
  • They're very good friends.
  • - So Whitney is screwing with us?
  • She played us.
  • - We figured it out.
  • - But we're here.
  • We got catfished.
  • Whitney, is that even her real name?
  • - We don't even know if anything she's told us is real.
  • - I mean, we don't even know if they're in love.
  • They wanted to be on TV? - They wanna be on TV?
  • - Yeah, Lucious...
  • - She's got a career maybe she's trying to pursue.
  • - Lucious is no stranger to the camera.
  • There have to be easier ways to meet than to write in
  • to a television show.
  • They're using us for a plane ticket.
  • - Did she really think we wouldn't figure it out?
  • I just can't believe this.
  • We were looking through your messages
  • and basically, we found
  • these.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • A little over four years of conversation.
  • - 55
  • pages
  • between you and Lucious B (bleep).
  • Going all the way up to a week ago.
  • There are times where you ask to go on Ooovoo or Skype
  • and it looks like you guys got on with each other.
  • - No.
  • I haven't been on with her.
  • - Come on.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Yeah.
  • Well this person, her name is...
  • - Come on.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - I didn't hit you up to do this.
  • That's what's going on.
  • - All right, you wanna tell us what that means?
  • - Yes.
  • She basically hit the show up
  • to basically try to see me.
  • - Okay.
  • - And I was like,
  • "Why you do that?
  • "I wanna see you too but
  • "like, this is crazy."
  • Everything just went haywire from there
  • and now we're here.
  • - You lied to the show so that you could come on
  • and then meet each other in person?
  • - Yeah.
  • - Here's the dilemma.
  • We've now sat with you for probably a total of five hours
  • and listened to 100% lies.
  • You looking us dead in the eye and lying to us.
  • We're in this position that you so well articulated
  • that you don't like being lied to because
  • when someone lies to you, you don't know what's true
  • and what's not and we don't exactly wanna air a show
  • where we get tricked by two people who may just want
  • their 15 minutes of fame.
  • So this is your final shot to tell us the truth.
  • - All right.
  • - What's the nature of your relationship with Bre?
  • - We've been talking for on and off for about four years.
  • - Are you in love with her?
  • - I am in love with her.
  • She's there, I'm here.
  • I'm trying to figure out even if I wanna stay
  • in New York or not.
  • I wanna see her to make sure
  • that if I do decide to move to California,
  • that I'm gonna be with her and everything is what
  • she says it is and what we want it to be.
  • - Tell us about how it's ruined your relationship with Liz.
  • - After Alyssa and I broke up, I started talking to Liz
  • and we hit it off and we were in a great relationship
  • going on for about a year and a half.
  • I am madly in love with that girl.
  • - You were dating her for a year and a half?
  • - Yeah, a year and a half.
  • - Wow, and Alyssa just broke that up?
  • - Yeah, Alyssa started contacting me again saying,
  • "I still love you, I wanna be with you,"
  • and I was trying to give her the hint
  • I don't want a relationship and she still harassed me
  • and called me at random times in the night,
  • two or three in the morning.
  • - As you could see that it was really hurting
  • your relationship with Liz, like why not
  • just get a new phone number?
  • - I did get a new number but she got my number somehow.
  • - This girl is stalking you.
  • - Basically.
  • The harassment continued and that was a big part
  • in why Liz and I broke up because Liz felt like
  • since Alyssa was still in the picture,
  • she couldn't trust me anymore.
  • - Thank you for meeting up with us
  • on such short notice.
  • Obviously, you know what we're doing here.
  • - Right.
  • - We want your take on this whole situation.
  • Your side of the story.
  • - Well, I'm in this for about three and a half years now.
  • We started talking as friends and then we got together.
  • But Alyssa didn't get out of his life.
  • She was always in this relationship.
  • - So Alyssa was always this like, third person
  • in your relationship? - Always.
  • Always.
  • Why is Alyssa still involved?
  • I should be the only girl that you're talking to.
  • She's like, you know, texting him and stuff
  • and I would see text messages like,
  • "I wish you were here licking my (bleep)."
  • How am I supposed to react to this?
  • - Really?
  • - [Liz] Yes.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Wow and she knows he's in a relationship.
  • - Yeah.
  • She's making me crazy.
  • And then her cousin gets involved too and starts
  • talking to me, Miranda.
  • She's like,
  • "Hey, how you doing?
  • "How are you and Vince?"
  • As soon as she said that, I was like boom,
  • you really don't have to talk to me
  • That was it and it was cut off.
  • She never texted me back to this day.
  • - How did we get from that to you guys breaking up?
  • - Well it was just this past Monday
  • we just broke up.
  • - This week?
  • - Yeah.
  • That's why like, I'm really emotional about this.
  • He told me I'm gonna be on "Catfish."
  • I didn't understand why.
  • I thought he met Alyssa,
  • I thought he knew Alyssa.
  • - So you never realized that he had never met her?
  • - He lied to me this whole relationship.
  • (mellow music)
  • I'm sorry.
  • I didn't know this whole time.
  • - Vince told you that he had
  • dated her in real life?
  • - And met her and all this stuff
  • from what the stories he told me.
  • - Multiple stories about meeting and being with her.
  • - Like, he told me like, he went to her aunt's house
  • and her aunt's house is nice.
  • And all of it's a lie.
  • I do love him, I'm just disappointed in him.
  • How can you love them and never met them?
  • - Welcome to our world.
  • - Is anything you told me true?
  • - Yeah, everything I've told you is true
  • except for of course, the pictures.
  • - Does that mean that your mother recently passed away
  • from breast cancer?
  • - That part, no that part was not true.
  • I sent that--
  • - Well that's a huge-- - So then
  • everything's not true.
  • - Well that part.
  • I said-- - Well, did you have cancer?
  • - No.
  • - You came out here and said,
  • "Everything I've said was true except for the pictures,"
  • and now it turns out most of what you said wasn't true.
  • - Why when he started dating Liz did you
  • try so hard to
  • break into that relationship and cause havoc?
  • You know he's in a relationship,
  • you know he just wants to be a friend to you,
  • that's the story that he told us.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Well, you know, I might've lied about stuff
  • and everything but he's not innocent.
  • He has flirted with me ever since he has been dating Liz
  • and I have text messages to prove that.
  • The thing that he sent in his text messages,
  • he shouldn't say that if he has a girlfriend.
  • - [Max] What did he say in his text message?
  • - Like he text me saying something about
  • playing with his (bleep).
  • I have that on text message so you can't sit there
  • and say that you didn't send it.
  • - Well did you text it to her?
  • - You might as well
  • tell the truth. - I mean, whatever if you did.
  • - You might as well tell the truth
  • 'cause they're going to see it.
  • - Yeah, I said that but--
  • - While you were dating Liz.
  • He's told me that he would break up with Liz for me.
  • Obviously he didn't tell you guys that story?
  • - Nope. - No.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Whatever.
  • - But like I said, I agreed to be--
  • - It's not whatever.
  • If you have this girl that you love so much,
  • that you've been having a relationship with
  • for a year and a half, like why are you
  • sending pictures of your (bleep)?
  • - I wasn't trying to get any sexual conversation out of you.
  • - Come on, Vince.
  • - Don't pretend, and I won't either,
  • that you're holier than any other guy ever.
  • We're all the same here, okay?
  • - Wait, timeout.
  • I don't do that (bleep).
  • Vince called us in under the--
  • - Let's just be realistic for a second.
  • - Under the pretense that he wanted to get this girl
  • the hell out of his life because she's ruining
  • his relationship with his girlfriend who he loves so much.
  • - Come on, man, you're making me look like
  • a (bleep) ass (bleep).
  • - You're kinda making yourself look pretty bad.
  • I mean, Liz had good reason to have suspicions
  • about why you weren't blocking Alyssa.
  • - I wasn't trying to get back in a relationship.
  • - You were.
  • It was something on the side that you wouldn't let go of
  • for Liz, which is all she wanted.
  • - [Vince] I mean, yeah.
  • - Every time I wanna meet her or something,
  • she pulls up an excuse and then eventually,
  • got her to get on Skype with me.
  • It was a completely different person.
  • - So the person you were video chatting with
  • was not the girl from the photos?
  • - [Ramon] Yeah, not at all.
  • - Wow.
  • When you guys were video chatting,
  • did you have a clear video of this girl?
  • - It was a bit pixelated.
  • It wasn't the best connection.
  • - What was your reaction?
  • - I was shocked and I was upset.
  • Questioning why she would do that to me.
  • Then she texted me saying that she had her cousin
  • get on the camera.
  • - Why did she wanna do that?
  • - She wanted to see if I loved her for her is what
  • she was saying and not for her looks.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - [Max] But you had never seen that girl before
  • and you never saw her again?
  • - No, not at all.
  • - 'Cause I think Ramon deserves
  • an explanation.
  • - I didn't think any relationship was gonna form with him.
  • All of it was real, just that,
  • the appearance.
  • That's the only thing that was fake.
  • Okay?
  • Yes, it was.
  • Yes, it was.
  • - Not right.
  • - [Paola] I know it's not right.
  • - Still.
  • - You spent over 3,000 frickin' dollars on me.
  • Do you not think I don't feel bad?
  • I'm surrounded by that (bleep) every single day.
  • - You couldn't have like,
  • came clean after all that if you felt bad?
  • - I tried to come clean.
  • - [Ramon] You tried to come clean.
  • - You know I tried to come clean.
  • You know I tried to come clean.
  • Please don't.
  • You know I tried to come clean to you several times.
  • Yes, and every single-- - You didn't.
  • - Yes, I did.
  • You were acting all sad.
  • You knew.
  • - I knew what?
  • - You knew that I tried to come clean before.
  • - [Nev] Is it all right if we all come in?
  • - Yeah.
  • He knows my full name,
  • though he probably will claim that he forgot it.
  • He knows, he heard my birthday,
  • he's seen my driver's license.
  • You've seen me, we FaceTimed, we Skyped,
  • you called me by my name before.
  • - [Max] Is that true?
  • - Yeah.
  • Now that I--
  • - What the hell?
  • - Mmhmm, yeah.
  • There were multiple times where he has seen me.
  • He knew that if I wasn't Paola, he knew
  • that this is what he was gonna get,
  • whether he wants to act like he doesn't know or not.
  • - It's a little weird that you didn't tell us
  • that she went to such--
  • she, I mean...
  • You only told us that she once said something and then--
  • - That you only saw her from here up.
  • - No, he saw me.
  • He saw me
  • - How much of what she's telling us right now
  • is accurate about the fact that she tried multiple times
  • to explain to you who she really was?
  • - Yeah, that did happen.
  • I barely remember.
  • - [Nev] You barely remember that?
  • - Dude, we sat with you for hours
  • trying to extract stuff from you.
  • - It sounds like you had kinda met her
  • a couple times.
  • - Yeah, I didn't wanna believe it.
  • I didn't.
  • I don't know.
  • - Take us back, you know, five months ago
  • when you got this random phone call
  • and kinda how everything progressed from there.
  • - Yeah, so I was selling my soaps and things like that
  • and so every once and a while, I'd, you know,
  • I'd get a call.
  • And I got a call from Jack.
  • I let it go to voicemail.
  • I text him, I wanted to know, you know,
  • like if he had any inquiries.
  • He's so funny, he just started like,
  • kinda flirting with me.
  • And I thought it was funny, I did it back.
  • - Wow.
  • - What was his line?
  • Like, I'm feeling really dirty.
  • Do you have any soap
  • to clean me up?
  • - I'm a dirty boy.
  • (laughter)
  • - [Max] Can you tell us a little bit about him?
  • - He lives here in Rochester, too.
  • - He lives in Rochester. - Wait, time out.
  • Why haven't you guys met?
  • - He works a lot and I'm busy with my kids.
  • - Do you talk to him on the phone.
  • - No, we don't.
  • - You've only texted?
  • - We only text.
  • - Yeah, but he called you once.
  • - Yeah, but she didn't answer.
  • You're a smart woman.
  • You know that that's pretty weird.
  • - That is weird.
  • But at this point,
  • I've fallen for whoever I've been talking to, honestly.
  • I'm in love.
  • I am very emotionally invested in this relationship.
  • But lately, he hasn't been texting me back.
  • And when he does, it's like late at night.
  • It makes me wonder am I the only one he's been talking to?
  • - You don't know Jack.
  • (laughter)
  • Shawny, we need to have a real talk here.
  • - Yes.
  • - You've seen the show.
  • There have been people who've come on the show who
  • claim to have never met a person
  • that they ended up talking to
  • but then it turned out that they knew them all along.
  • - Okay.
  • - 'Cause this person is in Rochester.
  • - The story feels very...
  • It's unusual.
  • - So I just wanna give you an opportunity now
  • to let us know
  • if by any chance, you know who this person
  • already is that you're talking to.
  • - I wish I did.
  • That's why I called you guys.
  • So I put myself out there to do this.
  • Coming on TV is gonna embarrass the hell out of me.
  • I'm really gonna be pissed off
  • if it's not the situation that
  • I thought that I've had for the last five months.
  • I'm not, you know, one of those type of people that even
  • put myself out there like this.
  • This is kinda huge.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Do you know this person?
  • Do you know this person?
  • - [Nev] Do you know this person?
  • - Yeah.
  • - [Nev] You're in trouble.
  • Someone's lying.
  • - It's your ex-husband?
  • (bleep)
  • - No way.
  • - Is it really
  • your ex-husband?
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Unbelievable.
  • So you were lying to us.
  • You did catfish us.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • Hey, I'm Nev.
  • Why don't you just tell us what's going on?
  • - Did you know it was her?
  • - No, not until I got like to right by this tree right here.
  • I didn't--
  • I thought like this was gonna be
  • our first time meeting.
  • That's why I'm--
  • what's going on?
  • - Didn't she tell you her name?
  • Via the texts, didn't she say,
  • "Oh, my name's Shawny"?
  • - I said my name is Shawny.
  • - This is not Shawny.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - [Nev] I don't understand.
  • - [Max] What's your name?
  • - Ebony.
  • - [Max] Your name is not Shawny?
  • - No.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Why wouldn't you tell us that?
  • - Because I thought that you guys wouldn't help me.
  • - Help you do what?
  • - Try to get my family back together.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - You took every chapter out of the Catfish book.
  • - Well he catfished me and I catfished him back.
  • - When did he catfish you?
  • - 'Cause he told me his name was Jack.
  • - That's because you're some stranger hitting him up on,
  • you know.
  • - Yeah.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - Time out.
  • Ebony.
  • You did all this stuff.
  • - Yeah.
  • - You lied to us, you lied to Brandon,
  • you lied and cheated your way here
  • for what?
  • - I felt like I didn't know what else to do.
  • Honestly.
  • We were living in the same house and we weren't
  • even talking to one another.
  • And the kids would see that all the time.
  • And I just thought like, maybe he could talk to me
  • as a different person.
  • How is it that you can just maintain for five months,
  • being like the perfect person ever just about
  • and like for 16 years, you couldn't
  • even get it together, like?
  • Why can't we do that as Brandon and Ebony?
  • (suspenseful music)
  • I don't wanna have to be somebody else to be loved.
  • - So did you catfish us and him in order
  • to force this conversation?
  • 'Cause you could've had this conversation with him
  • without us, theoretically.
  • - I've tried but we just argue and it made it worse.
  • It made everything worse.
  • - [Nev] How did you and Emily meet?
  • - I contacted her when I had gotten my heart broken
  • by my ex.
  • I was feeling gay for a day so I'm like,
  • "Hey, let me just be gay for a day and see what happens."
  • I was just going through Facebook,
  • looking at girls' pictures.
  • I came across her picture, I'm like,
  • "Oh snap, this girl's really cute.
  • "Let me just hit her up and see what happens."
  • And we hit it off right then and there.
  • And then she gave me her number.
  • She opened up to me about her personal situations
  • with her family, how hard it was for her to come out.
  • She made me understand it's okay to be gay.
  • I really do love her and she's pretty.
  • - So that's part of the package to you?
  • Like, she has to be who she looks like?
  • - I would hope so.
  • - All right, so hold on.
  • Let me explain what's up here.
  • Have a seat, have a seat.
  • Basically, nine months ago, Hundra was on Facebook
  • and came across a profile of a girl named Emily
  • with pictures of you that like, really caught her eye.
  • We spent the last couple days
  • looking into this whole situation.
  • And we found some interesting things
  • you might actually be able to help us make sense out of.
  • - Lay it on me, come on.
  • - Okay, so the big question is
  • do you know a Geralyn...
  • - Yeah, my ex-girlfriend.
  • - [Nev] Whoa, okay.
  • - [Mealnie] Wait.
  • - [Nev] You have a girlfriend now?
  • - Yes.
  • With my girlfriend now, me and her broke up
  • last summer, last year.
  • She had went to the army.
  • Me and Geralyn were friends for a while.
  • We in a relationship, we broke up because
  • I was still in love with the other girl
  • so I got back with the other girl.
  • - It wasn't like an ugly, nasty break-up, was it?
  • - No, I literally just told her how it was.
  • - She took it pretty uh,
  • pretty well.
  • - Whoa, okay.
  • Because the number that Hundra is currently
  • talking to her on comes up registered to Geralyn.
  • - Oh my God.
  • - I don't know Hundra.
  • - You don't know Hundra?
  • - What does that--
  • what do you mean you don't know Hundra?
  • - I've only been talking to her for about like four weeks.
  • - So you mean the whole nine months isn't actually true?
  • - It's not true, no.
  • - So you guys only started talking four weeks ago.
  • - Yes.
  • - Oh.
  • - But you still have been talking to her?
  • - Okay.
  • Well, obviously, she contacted the show.
  • - Right.
  • - But it's just like, it's not true.
  • Don't know Hundra.
  • Don't like her at all like that.
  • Me and Melanie only did it because she asked us to.
  • - Wait, Melanie knew Hundra.
  • So Melanie knows that this is all fake, too.
  • Either you guys are like Academy Award-winning actors
  • or like...
  • 'cause you guys are--
  • - Okay, so hold on, so you and Melanie
  • are for real ex-girlfriends?
  • - Yeah. - Okay.
  • - And a coup--
  • and a month-- - That's true.
  • - A month ago, Hundra contacted you guys and said,
  • "Hey, I wanna get on this show, "Catfish?"
  • - I don't know.
  • I don't know if it was like that.
  • I have no idea.
  • - An absolute (bleep).
  • There's gotta be some reason you're involved in this.
  • Was it because you thought if you could get on the show,
  • why would you risk your reputation
  • just to help some girl you don't know?
  • - If Melanie wanted to help her then
  • I love her so I'm gonna help.
  • - Really?
  • So you just steal pictures and talk to people?
  • (suspenseful music)
  • I'm talking to you.
  • - I can hear you.
  • - So speak, like
  • you think that's cool.
  • - It's over.
  • - What's over?
  • What's over?
  • - This whole thing is over.
  • - What do you mean?
  • - She spilled the beans.
  • Y'all playing us.
  • Hundra, you wanna tell us something?
  • You knew them already, huh?
  • - But it was still something that needed to be done like
  • as far as me coming out.
  • - So that was it?
  • You just wanted to come out?
  • You had to have at least had a reason
  • to wanna be on television.
  • - I wanted the world to know that I was gay, like--
  • - Why does the world need to know that you're gay?
  • - When you're in a culture that hates what you
  • have to become, it's not that easy so yeah,
  • in a way, the world should give a (bleep).
  • I don't wanna keep lying to myself.
  • - But what's the world gonna take away from this?
  • Right now, you're setting a really bad example for people.
  • - How?
  • - Because you lied.
  • And you also speak on gays
  • like they have a disease.
  • - [Nev] Butch and like, gay for a day.
  • - I feel like I can call them certain names
  • because I've been in their world for a while.
  • - On paper, like I think you're
  • crusade to liberate Haitian women across the nation
  • is like, beautiful.
  • And like there are very real ways that one could do that
  • and this is the worst way to do it.
  • This is incredibly selfish.
  • - You don't look like a hero.
  • - Okay, well this is done.
  • - Yeah, thank you.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • So why are you smiling?
  • What's funny?
  • - It's not funny, it's just (bleep) up, it is.
  • - And why did you go along with this?
  • What do you have invested in her?
  • - Sucker, you are a sucker!
  • You, corny.
  • You are corny.
  • - So a random girl just hits you up
  • on the internet and says like,
  • "Hey, will you help me lie on national television?"
  • And you were like,
  • "Sure."
  • - Well it wasn't like that.
  • I mean, she wasn't a random girl.
  • I mean, we were friends.
  • - [Nev] I just don't see you and Hundra being friends.
  • I don't get that pairing.
  • - No, but we are, though.
  • Like I mean, I wouldn't say we're like
  • the best of friends, like I'm a--
  • I'm like oh--
  • now we're not friends, not after this.
  • - Thank you for wasting my time.
  • I regret all of it, you're corny, you're not a hero.
  • You are a shameful citizen.
  • - Paint the picture of how we ended up here.
  • - So about nine months ago,
  • I got a message like,
  • "Hey, Taylor, how have you been?"
  • And I'm like,
  • "Hey, you know, who is this?
  • "I don't really remember you."
  • And he's like,
  • "You know, it's Christian.
  • "We went to high school together.
  • "I remember when you transferred
  • "from Simi Valley to McKinley."
  • - That's a very specific detail.
  • - Yeah, so when he said that, I'm like,
  • "Okay, you were there, you know me, let's talk."
  • So I'm like,
  • "Well here, here's my number, let's text.
  • "We don't have to you know, keep talking on Messenger."
  • So we texted for like another week or two
  • and then I was like, you know,
  • "Can we talk on the phone?"
  • So I called him and we talked.
  • And that lasted for like, maybe a month
  • and then five months ago,
  • just stopped talking to me.
  • So we text.
  • - Was there ever any doubt when you talked to him
  • on the phone that his voice sounded like
  • anything other than a guy?
  • - Not at all.
  • It was definitely a man, definitely a guy, yeah.
  • - Okay.
  • - And how were those phone calls?
  • - Like a lot of chemistry and it just,
  • it felt like someone I already knew.
  • He's like gentle, he's caring.
  • We laughed a lot, he's very funny.
  • So I'm like,
  • "Well, let's FaceTime."
  • And he's like,
  • "Oh, I can't 'cause my camera's broken."
  • - I can see you've texted her.
  • - That's her.
  • - Wait a second.
  • Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • Wait, that's her number?
  • - Yeah, that's her number.
  • - What, wait a second?
  • Jerrika's number is Christian's number.
  • That's Christian's old number.
  • You never noticed that Christian's number was her number?
  • - No, never at all.
  • - What, wait a second.
  • Jerrika's number is Christian's number.
  • - Yeah.
  • - Hello?
  • - No, that's not his number now I talked about though.
  • - Well yeah, but you have this number for Jerrika.
  • - It's her when I call her.
  • Like, I could call her right now and it's her,
  • it's not a guy.
  • - Right, but...
  • - That's the point.
  • - Right, so it's definitely her.
  • The first number you had for Christian before you knew
  • his new number is Jerrika's current number.
  • So you knew that there was some weird connection
  • with her and this story, which is why
  • you acting surprised is weird to me.
  • (suspenseful music)
  • - So when I asked her about that, she said it wasn't her.
  • - You already called her out?
  • - 'Cause you had it programmed in your phone already?
  • Yeah, I told her.
  • I was like,
  • "This goes back to someone that I've talked to."
  • - So why wouldn't you mention that to us?
  • When we got here and said,
  • "Oh, by the way, the first number you had for Christian
  • "comes back to your friend, Jerrika,"
  • how could you not immediately say,
  • "Oh yeah, I knew that."
  • - Well 'cause I believe her.
  • In my heart, I don't believe it's her.
  • - Yeah but, like, how could you not
  • mention that that you brought that up with her?
  • You're too smart for this?
  • - If I felt like a little bit that I felt like it was her,
  • then I would be on it that it's her but I--
  • in my heart, I don't believe it's her.
  • - You're telling us the truth?
  • - Yes.
  • - I'm sorry but,
  • honestly, I just really can't say anything more than that.
  • I don't feel bad.
  • - Blah, blah, blah.
  • All right, let's just be honest.
  • Can someone just (bleep) be honest?
  • This is stupid.
  • I just want someone to (bleep) tell me the truth.
  • This is all bull (bleep).
  • - There is no bull (bleep).
  • This is what you see is what you get.
  • There's nothing more to it like,
  • it just got out of hand.
  • - We know for sure that's not what's going on here.
  • - What else--
  • what do you think is going on?
  • - I think you guys and Taylor are all full of (bleep).
  • We know Taylor's best friend has the same phone number
  • as the catfish.
  • It doesn't add up, none of it.
  • You guys aren't fooling anybody, it's all B.S.
  • Do you have any additional
  • things to say?
  • - Not at all.
  • - [Producer] Why don't we take a break
  • and talk a little bit more?
  • - All right, okay.
  • - [Producer] Is that cool?
  • - Yeah, why don't we just take a quick breather?
  • - Okay.
  • - So we just got ahold of Jerrika.
  • She said the reason she doesn't wanna be on the show
  • is because she doesn't wanna be deceptive in helping Taylor
  • with her plan.
  • Maybe Jerrika got cold feet and then
  • these guys got pulled in but, yeah.
  • As far as Jerrika is concerned,
  • all of that stuff's bull (bleep).
  • - Right.
  • Only one person in this room can explain.
  • How did you get involved?
  • - Taylor.
  • - Like when you guys added me on Facebook
  • and were just like, playing around?
  • - I'm trying to give you the opportunity to
  • speak your truth and then I will speak mine.
  • - And I'm speaking my truth.
  • - [Girl] I wouldn't feel the need to--
  • - All right, so I'll just say it.
  • I'm just gonna say it.
  • So Taylor set this up to come on TV.
  • And then at some point, asked you guys to come on the show?
  • - Yeah.
  • We kinda got in on at the end.
  • - You basically, you three were gonna be the ones
  • that were
  • the catfish.
  • - Her.
  • - She was.
  • - Wait, hold on, Taylor, you just said that
  • like all of a sudden, you're like agreeing with the story.
  • You're just gonna casually admit that like,
  • they're right and you've been (bleep)
  • full of (bleep) this whole time?
  • Are you ready to do that?
  • - So Jerrika decided to make it up and I wrote in.
  • (laughs)
  • - Okay.
  • - And then Jerrika said she didn't wanna look stupid.
  • - [Nev] Okay. - Look at us.
  • - So I was like,
  • "Let me see if someone from Atlanta can do it."
  • So I wrote her but the fact that they're involved--
  • - But why?
  • Why do all that?
  • To be on the show?
  • To boost your Instagram?
  • - What's the origin point of why we are all sitting on this
  • (laughs)
  • these couches right now?
  • Like, I wanna be on TV.
  • Like what (bleep)?
  • We talked to you, you sat with us,
  • talking about this lie.
  • We spent time and energy.
  • When we do this like, 110% into everything and
  • like that's (bleep) up.
  • - So if they would've said no then I wouldn't even have
  • wrote into the show.
  • It's not like I was gonna keep finding people.
  • - No, that's my fault for--
  • - No, that's ridiculous.
  • You don't think anything's your fault,
  • the world is like at your feet do do whatever--
  • - No, I never said nothing
  • is my fault. - Yeah, but that--
  • but this just like...
  • You look so gross right now.
  • I don't even think Jerrika is involved.
  • I'm sorry.
  • I just think the fact that you went through with this
  • and that you so casually are just saying like,
  • "Okay, yeah, that's it,"
  • and haven't once like even seemed to express
  • any sense of remorse.
  • You're like,
  • "Life is gonna be perfect for me anyway
  • "so like, oops, sorry."
  • That's how I feel about you right now.
  • - Okay.
  • - So I'm finished.
  • You guys, that's it.
  • I got the answers I needed, I think the story's over.
  • I'm sorry you guys got roped into this.
  • That was unfortunate.
  • It was a bad decision but okay.
  • Good luck.
  • Sorry we had to ruin your big TV debut.

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Someone is typically lying on ‘Catfish,’ though you rarely expect it to be the person writing into the show. These 6 ‘victims’ prove that’s not always they case — they straight up lied to Nev, Max, and everyone else’s faces.

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